Located at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Catholic Handbook PURL: http://purl.oclc.org/NET/lgbh/ [A PURL is an OCLC maintained "Persistant URL" which will always point to the real location of a website] A Married Lay Woman's Thoughts Thu, 9 Dec 1993 From, Kathy Hutchins KATHY@FALCON.IUPUI.EDU on email list CATHOLIC CATHOLIC@AMERICAN.EDU Lance Simmons specifies: I do not (repeat DO NOT) want to get into a discussion of whether homosexual genital activity is ever morally permissible. I merely request a clarification of the term "coming out". Those of us who accept the Roman Catholic teaching on same-sex genital activity can fill in the other variables for ourselves. Paul Halsall gets normative anyway, and clarifies that "coming out" requires acknowledging that GAY IS GOOD This proposition is analyzed by all and sundry, using various analogies: Robert King says: We can love the sinner while hating the sin. I am very close to several gay people, but I do not agree with, approve of, or support their behavior. Neither do I hate them or any gay people I don't know. I simply think they are wrong and that their behavior is sinful. Lance Simmons fires a double barrel: These seem to me much different situations. If a son or daughter of mine came to me and said "I am often tempted to steal, and nothing I have been able to do has rid me of the temptation, and at times in the past I have been unable to resist the temptation," I would feel much differently than if they said "I prefer a life of crime to the lifeof 'straight' people, and I intend to act based on my preferences." It is also misleading to say there is "nothing wrong" with being gay. There need be nothing morally wrong with having a homosexual orientation, just as there need be nothing morally wrong with being blind or deaf. But it is _better_ to be born sighted than blind, and anyone who denies this is in the grip of a theory. There IS something wrong with being born blind -- but it is not something for which the blind person can be held in any way responsible. Note, however, that if the blind person became blind by deliberately poking out her eyes there is something wrong with that. Likewise, it seems that if a person played any deliberate role in the development of his or her homosexual orientation, that condition would be blameworthy as well. All of this is perfectly compatible with saying that God creates some people with a homosexual orientation, just as God creates some people blind, and deaf, and paralyzed, etc.... Still, to freely and knowingly perform acts that are blinding, deafening, or paralyzing is morally wrong, and there is something wrong with the conditions themselves, though not (necessarily) something blameworthy. When Paul throws a "hissy-fit" over these analogies, Dan Hydar defends Lance: This strikes me as extremely uncalled for... it's clear that Lance was just trying to illustrate his perspective by analogy. Basically these are two things (homosexual acts & theft) that related because the Church considers them immoral and he was trying to clarify the issue of orientation/preference vs. actions. Why go into hysterics? Why would Paul go into hysterics over all this trenchant commentary? Maybe because it's facile and shallow. Maybe because when people like us who haven't ever been forced to grapple hand to hand with these moral issues spout off like this we do it the lazy way, without clearly thinking it through. I'm as guilty of this as anyone. I've lumped gay people with unmarried straights and breezily recommended that they both follow the same commandment to be chaste. That's easy enough, isn't it? Of course, *I* don't have to follow my own advice. I can (and did) marry. I can (and do) share my life with someone I'm absolutely crazy about, I can (and do) revel in every aspect of that companionship, and I do so with the beaming approval of my family, my parish, and the Catholic Church. It's specious to tell gays that they're just being called to the same chastity that is commanded of everyone. We are telling them that they may never, ever, express the fullness of their human love. I believe that I must follow the Church's teachings and, unlike Paul, I believe those teachings are clear. But then, what does it cost me to believe that? What struggle does it force me to engage? None. Obeying _Humanae Vitae_ is a piece of cake compared to this. I think if each one of us who is deeply in love with a cherished spouse could empathetically understand that gays feel the same love, we would find it easier to love our neighbors as ourselves, and thereby commit less sin. Kathy Hutchins